第49 Work and abroad Software Engineer Antonios Greece -> Ireland

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Welcome to this new episode of work on an abroad today we are where Antonius are you I’m good thank you so maybe we start by talking a little bit about where are you coming from why you decided to be working abroad okay I come from from Greece from the northern part I always wanted to leave that the place where I grew up very early when I was even before finishing school I wanted to go I wanted to see stuff I like the phrase you know citizen of the world so yeah first opportunity I want to study to the UK I stayed there five years and I missed the Sun went back to Greece for another five years and then because of the situation but the financial but you know the mentality situation that was created by financial I decided to leave just go and so I went I stayed for eight months in slovakia bratislava it was I didn’t think it through when I went there so that I didn’t I wasn’t a match with a culture there and then with my girlfriend at the time we visited Dublin for weekend we came here we liked that you know how the buildings were not very high so you can see the sky the war sky these two days so that was the trick yeah and then we decided to move here and after a few months I got a job and moved and we are here for five and a half years now and last year we decided to move to Germany Munich and it’s happening in I’m starting with Walter and first of September in the Munich office so yeah moving Weimar say that you were feeling that you would like to be abroad and working abroad since they any time of your life yeah so is this becoming you started to become an idea high school or university before even before yeah I didn’t I didn’t like the mentality of division that’s passed through school or societies like your Greek mr. Keyes you’re from Costa Rica is we are creating conflict you know even the flags I don’t agree I don’t fully agree I think that we’re all the same and this what I’m finding out living abroad that we are all the same at the end of the day we all what’s you know something on television we all hang out with friends we are all looking for love you know and so yeah I wanted to see different cultures starting in England was helped a lot in getting a different point of view for cultures so I saw the English culture when I was very young I went there just as I turned 18 I knew the Greek culture so it’s good to have different perspectives on you know your own culture how you grew up against something different and yeah as I grew up I realized that we’re very much the same and related to language like you will start it with the English your second language yeah yeah okay so how do you feel about okay well I mean the UK I would say you were being so you went back and then you say okay actually I would like to work on this language as well so how do you find you’ve been working in a language that is not your native so I’m right now I’m working in support and so I’m dealing with customers so you have to have you know a good command but generally I I don’t think that’s a problem I think most like most of the people that I interact are non-native English speakers and that’s part because to get all these professionals in Dublin you have to bring people from abroad so I don’t think language is a barrier I think it’s easy to you know do your work and then if you want to become better you can use that sometime after to improve the language but generally I don’t think it’s a problem and everyone is accepting like especially in cities like Dublin people expect that you know when they meet someone they might not be from there so I never had trouble with people understanding me we see the same case for the UK or but slava UK yes there are so many foreigners there not so much from Greece but Poland Czech Republic Nigeria many people in Slovakia yeah I didn’t have problems in Slovakia we were anywhere around with English and it was fine it wasn’t so easy but then again Bratislava it’s not it’s a city that you know there’s not been so many years since the US companies went there and they build their hubs so that’s a work in progress but generally you wouldn’t have problems generally people are friendly I think that’s the general rule and what about German now that you’re going to be Munich what’s your idea about German or English language there yeah that’s a good thing is that I’m going to be working in English in the office but both me and my wife you know we have the basic level of German like the crumb stuffer but I think when you live in a country like I like you know you can watch a serious and just have the subtitles it’s not so hard I think to learn a language German is close to ancient Greek so foundation yeah yeah but yeah I think if you if you’re open to it like I I was in Buenos Aires for two months and when I went there I didn’t speak in Spanish and after two months I could have conversations mostly just by watching you know Envy and being around people that talk the language so yeah well if you’ve been through several countries and if somebody’s looking for a way to find a job abroad what could be really deep for them mmm good tip so that that’s tricky for me because I think I’m not the candidate that everyone is looking for so it wasn’t easy for me to get jobs abroad it took some time because of the scales or because of the papers no I think it’s because of this kids I think if you are in a country and then you’re moving to a different country sometimes you have to be ready to start from zero yes so in this case my my tip would be find a job like a steppin job start take it easy because just moving is a big step so take your time when you move and when you’re comfortable look for the job that you like what about companies how how can you say a good company for a bad company when you’re moving abroad because you don’t know the context culture company so is there anything that you might be seen in that company in that country like I triggered you like yes you know I stepped in yeah right now there is no cluster where there’s no way for me to know how accurate that is but this is something I’m using it even just to know you know where other people work and how it is and because sometimes if you don’t have many different experiences with jobs you work you might be working in the best company in the world and you still think it’s not good but if you move around and then you realize oh that was a good company so yeah I would say the reviews and the people I think it’s all about connections I mean yeah when when you have an interview it goes both ways right so you have to be good enough for them but they also have to be good enough for you and people don’t I don’t think people realize that most people go to interview you know very stressed saying works both ways do you want to be hired by that person do you want to see him every day you know what about coming to interviews I’m not sure if culture is different from the Irish culture British culture in terms or couple going into an interview and just expressing yourself have you found any kind of difference like a culture shock so in Greece I really did one interview so all the time I was there I had was easy to find a job without interview so I wouldn’t say I have experience but here I think I found that it was hard to get the interview okay so I think a smart thing to do is use your connections to get the interview and then work hard to prepare and to get the job but yeah I think that the hardest part is to get the interview and I also think now especially for Dublin and it’s smarter to go for a pint and meet someone that works in workday for example would happily recommend to you because there is a yeah you know a bonus and there’s nothing to lose for the person that will you recommend you and you know that would might be easier than you applying and applying you know what about once that you are here like again you got the spirit from the UK from Slovakia and also if you mean Ireland so once that you get to the country whoa and looking from housing what would be a good tip as well for the people so after you move yeah once your study yeah good deep I’d say explore the country explore the culture be open I think that’s important because the culture can be different especially from me coming from from Greece it was very different even though I lived in in UK for five years it was very different because of the weather some increase everything that I like doing like 95% is outside and I think here it’s you know mostly inside because the weather is not good but what I found is that I guess so many people enjoying a walk in the rain which I would never consider right so yeah being open you know help you adapt because that’s what you want to do you want to adopt you don’t want to go to a different country and live in the previous country also if you move you have to be moving your body to on one place and your mind being back to your own country I think it’s wrong yeah have you seen cases or certain like at some point have you felt that you want to go back because things are not working this way or that way here I would like to you I miss Sun a lot barbecues but I didn’t I didn’t leave from Greece because I had to I left because I chose to so I don’t live in Greece anyway I don’t think that country much is my mentality maybe there is no country that much my mentality but yeah right now the plan is to move to Germany a bit closer to family and a bit closer to a bit more sunny I hope did you choose Germany for that for that reason or because was closer to home or do you take any other so that might be interesting we sat down with my wife and we put priorities in our life that’s nice and I said okay I hope that we have the same priorities so you know after the the highest priorities which could be you know love or you know some somewhere comes the the weather and the quality of life however everyone you know perceives it so for me all give life is clean roads clean tape I know it sounds stupid but you know I like that you know with with the climate change I would like to be part of a society that you know takes care of the environment safety which you know I find doubly in a very safe place but you know I hear people say I don’t know so yeah we did these priorities and we decided it you know the best city that would both be close to our families because you know parents getting older and the society and you know organized state unique so the decision to go to Munich was you know taken regardless of you know if I could move but it was a happy surprise that I can move go there and have a job because otherwise it would be much more difficult and expensive if let’s say that someone has an offer and it’s thinking about coming to Ireland and then it’s decided okay well I got the Oh this much money it’s a lot money from what I get at home shall I go but what about living abroad and I’ll get this kind of stuff that comes in mind what advice could you provide to the person that might be listening to this podcast because it’s looking for more information about them yeah I have an example of someone that asked me oh I’m gonna get from an Irish company should they come what do you think is the money good and yeah yeah the money is very good but I have a high lifestyle thing okay that’s the wrong approach for me the approach is first you decide what you want to do and then you do it if you take the decision it will happen like it’s you know it’s a matter of time you just need to take the decision if you’re looking at money or you know housing problem that we have in double you know these are I think these are all excuses that you make because you don’t really want today to do the move but if you want to do the move you will do it I mean someone that is determined to move to Dublin they will move it’s so easy to find a job as a waiter here let’s say you have no skills you will do it so yeah my advice would be take the decision and you know the rest will follow even if the money is not good you can beat this when when I started here the job that I defected was in betting I think for me it was one of the worst jobs I ever did I did for two months but I wanted to move so if you find yourself if you go back in time and find yourself fifteen years ago what advice could you say to yourself fifteen years ago I think you have advice I think that whatever you do you need to follow your I know it’s a cliche but you know follow your heart like follow the path that you know if you like even though it’s you know what the smart thing to do so yeah my advice 15 years ago don’t go back to Greece yeah I went back to Greece because I you know I was romantic like okay let’s go to the Sun yeah family and but the reality is that like the people we love you we love you wherever you are so you need to find what suits you best not what you but what you think that is going to to be the best for you what really is the best for you it’s it’s it’s I think it’s part of you know the self-awareness so maybe I had to go through all the things that I went through to be here any letter last advice for for the people that might be listening to these again and then they are looking for information about what to do what is to be working abroad what is it starting abroad yeah the general advice I would say it’s that you know I think it’s very easy to work abroad people tend to build walls Oh the language how to get the job I will leave my friends will leave my dog my girlfriend it’s very simple you take the decision and and you do it the example that I like to you is Comfort coming from Greece and from you know my grand parents and you know that whole generation to Germany even now I have relatives in Germany and it just went on the train going somewhere you know taking no further going in the wind and they made it without language now people you know speak English they have the internet you know they can get all the information you want and then you know they still think about it so yeah it’s very easy it’s much easier than you know people think it is to just like now I’m moving to Germany in three months and I haven’t done anything ever you know many things to do but it’s not that hard and ask for help think I know I’m not in facebook but I know there are many communities you know help people like oh I’m coming there for an interview can I crash at your couch or you know yeah I think in that way technology has made simple so yeah just take the decision and do it if the people want to connect with you is there a way to do it yeah I’ll share my personal email I really don’t mind okay what is where’s the paper in the email it’s Antonis dot taxis with TSA TSA s gmail.com thank you so much and thank you for for joining us thank you Thanks bye

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I’ve developed, maintained and evolved Content Management Systems, Info Websites, Risk Management Systems, Business Process Management Systems and a Proximity Messaging System. I am a versatile contributor with experience in all core functions, consensus-building, client-facing and problem-solving skills, and the ability to make difficult decisions back-up in my experience. I’ve been DevOps Team Leader, Software Development Team Leader and Scrum Master with more than 10 years of experience in Software Development in Costa Rica, Japan, the UK and Ireland. I’ve worked at companies’ offices as well as at their clients’ sites where I’ve demonstrated strong competence as a programmer as well as a pragmatic thinker and problem solver. I’ve gotten my Master’s degree from a University in Japan where I’ve created a system based on a Sensor Networking and Data Processing. The system identifies trends over time by information processing and communication patterns that may be significant through monitoring events in real time. I’ve often been given difficult business problems which I was able to formulate technical solutions for, using my own initiative and resources.

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