第10 Work abroad – Experience and Insights with Joao Siquerolli from Brazil to Ireland

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welcome to word and learn about this is a new episode this time we are with Joe how you doing Joe hey thank you I’m fine thanks good good Joe maybe if you can start by telling you about you yeah well thanks for having me here and some Brazilian being Ireland for three years now three years actually in three days oh yeah yeah and I came directly from Brazil to Ireland’s just looking for and better quality of life and yeah visit it okay so it was in Ireland your first destination no not really actually tells London oh great because people don’t really like yes planning to go to London because well actually I wanted you to move waterbirds you because like when I was 12 many people from my family like closings and then cold zones they went to the u.s. yes and then they started telling me a lot of things how is life out of Brazil and stuff I’m never being out of the country before I had never been and then for some reason I just wanted to come chill London because well first of all I have an Italian passport so come to Europe is much easier for me then go into the u.s. yeah and then okay I decided to come to Europe and then I thought London will be a good idea because of the financial companies and now the tech companies so and it’s a huge country big city very powerful so I thought that’d be a good option so I started researching about London I know already where what did you leave like what the neighborhood and everything and then a friend of mine he lived in he had lived in Dublin for 3 years in the next change and then he told me look look at her about the Dublin even I love the city it’s all about you like they’ll be like in Ireland because it’s not a country that I hear much about when you are in Brazil or probably anywhere outside of Europe yeah is not like a very let’s say famous consumer mainstream country that some friends and family say like why are you going what is there exactly exactly they were surprised yeah exactly so like I know Ireland I mean that’s weird but like I know what I’m gonna give it a try so I started my research about loveling and then I just fell in love for the city like oh my gosh that looks so cool the city is not too big it’s not absolutely not as big as London so I thought that you could kind of control more how things are because first I lost was it the first time he broke yeah first time yeah I mean the first time at all like how that Brazil like I never had a trip to other countries so yeah just started looking for looking about it look it up i buy the the city and then i just loved it and then I found it also there were loads of tech companies here so that was a very strong point for me because I didn’t have any job yet I was not doing interviews or anything like that the market is strong yeah oh my gosh it’s unbelievable actually it’s unbelievable yeah so well after my friend and recommend me doubling then I just decided to come to New Orleans let’s go back in time yeah you weren’t there you were thinking about problem then and then you just booked a ticket yeah no so actually well I was really afraid first of all so when I was planning about London I was wound about London for like two years in a row and then I started working with this guy and then he talked about doubling so I changed the cities in like in the last year there was in Brazil so I had a year she read about EE and stuff but in the meantime I was already saving money because in my mind if I had enough money to not work here for six months I should be okay somehow okay I thought that’ll be enough yeah yeah that’s my plan okay just save money to pay for the bills and survive for six months somehow I’m gonna find a job and then that’s it and then when I just I got enough money then I was in a relationship it was getting kind of serious so what I said she waited because she was still finishing college and then when we broke up I say okay there’s nothing nothing else we’ll be back here was it triggered that’s the time I can just go now like I’m free to go and then I just booked the tickets and six months later I just left the country they better do it so what do you what that night before live in the country what what’s your it’s kind of weird like I I was so happy for some reason I don’t know I was so sure I was doing the right thing so at the beginning when I booked the ticket so like six months before coming I was really afraid for a couple of months every time I’ll ever not because thinking okay am i doing the right thing or I don’t know if that’s the right move maybe I should wait a bit longer or something I don’t know so because I had the good job and everything like oh my life was not like hello I had a big problem there so I was running away from problems not at all so I was really afraid but how did you think about the language at that point as well so I am self-taught actually I learned English on my own basically translating lyrics and watching YouTube videos my first conversation in English was my first job interview with a company it was with a recruiter yeah and then I was in Brazil but she was yes it was basically we’re already engaging with vicar’s yeah yeah so like a month before coming more or less then I set up an account I couldn’t account on mostly and iris jobs and of course a bit of my LinkedIn and stuff and then some recruiters started contacting me some of them didn’t want to didn’t want to talk to me because I was it super easy to say okay when you arrive here then you can talk and but there’s this girl she was more interested in helping me and the first time that she called me I was working and then these friend of mine that is said that he ever gonna be he was right beside me and I say oh my glasses from Ireland and I started shaking I couldn’t take the call so I just hang and then she left a message and I could hear the message like many many times until I could understand her I heard this matter like 10 times I could not understand him and then I looked at my friend like what the hell am I doing with my life like it’s not gonna work I can’t talk to people and then three days later or something she called me again and then in the meantime this friend of mine he was encouraging me or say look you have to take it you have to face your fear otherwise it’s not going to work and then two or three days later this this girl called me again and I pick it up I could barely talk to her like it it was so awkward and I felt awful because again I couldn’t help her and it’s just being so nice interchange no no worries we work with foreigners all the time so everyone understand it that’s totally fine we’re gonna find something for you when that conversation finished I was so close should just give up and say look that’s not gonna work I have to do like an English course on something before I can move yeah but at the same time my friend was just encouraging me my family was super supported and supportive and everything and then I like okay after like a week more less after some calls again with these and some other calls it is the same person so I got a bit more relaxed and then all the recruiters he started calling me as well and then I started talking to other recruiters and it was easier to understand all the recruiter than this girl because okay she has a very strong Irish accent okay you know it’s very hard to understand them but it’s all tournament for the first time because I’m used again I learned from YouTube videos so I’m used to English from the US and maybe from UK not from Ireland yeah so Irish people they have this many accent so when you come here you might be thinking ok so it would be Irish accent and then you find that it might be some strong yeah Irish accents and yeah other they are more kind of America and I said they maybe kill me if they hear so he’s so funny to see all of these different oxen yeah yeah she’s a whore guys that’s a very stern fairy from Rogers other people that so yeah so after those calls then I start being more relaxed and say okay I think I can do this and then I stuck behind big super super happy so my last month there I was basically I jump up in towers like I couldn’t believe that I was doing it and then that’s when I started really accepting and understanding that it was possible and yeah and I was like okay you know I’m ready for it and then get a superstar but then I before you feel freedom rights were and this mindset switch to actually I’m doing this so how was for you one say you were right so I remember when we landed and I was leaving their airplane and I was thinking I screwed up like what I’m doing here half of the planet away from home I have no idea I was gonna do I I can barely speak to people I don’t know how to talk to anyone and I didn’t have like internet on my phone so I was like oh my gosh so there was a transfer set up to pick me up at the airport and then drive me chewed a hole still but was like how can I find this person I don’t have either that’s not my form and then I don’t know there was just so many bad things going through my mind and I was like oh my gosh I just hope that this thing work I just sold it had tons of point my family and then I just are looking for this person and then I I found them after like 15 minutes of walking around the airport and then I felt much relaxed actually I’m gonna after I found it because then they start explaining to me some things and showing me something serious a yellow here is very gonna do the saying blah blah and and this person was dead because he wasn’t ivory she or he are girl or no no no it’s just a month found on a Brazilian group a Brazilian business yeah a Facebook group and then yeah yeah yeah there are lots of Brazilian groups on Facebook about doubling in our London so that none be my life means for someone who is in Brazil or oh yeah and they want to explore Island yeah yeah absolutely to actually get to absolutely you know very help from those groups like if you’re looking for a place or if you’re just arriving you have nowhere to go or something if okay those those those groups someone’s gonna help it for sure people very helpful there and then well you you once you are here you get your stuff you get to some place to actually sleep you start to get to know more about companies the Queen City and all how was the recurring the job hunting mm-hmm how did the job hunting went that was super quick actually so as I started talking to some people before I came here so when I arrived here I was in contact with three different reporters and then I met all of them like just had a coffee or lunch or something and then they started getting me some interviews with actual companies in that week I had my first offer another oh my gosh because I came here thinking I have to work with something else and then I mean in another area nothing in my tea and then later on I can start any in our field but I also look at that after a week I had an offer like oh my gosh definitely want to take it and then I I talked to all the way it was it a good that’s a good money or if you go back me I was it good money or or you were I was not so sure but it was good it was good money yeah I mean definitely more than enough to pay for the bills and so on for W Center yeah yeah for the we serve yeah absolutely so then I yeah but I didn’t is because well first thing I was living in w7 close to things Park and then this company is based in malahide okay so that’ll be like one and a half hour Bible more or less every day and that is exactly the century said it was when I was in Brazil and I hated it that was one of the things that I hated about that my last job there so like oh I don’t want to go through the same thing again but I feel it’s an offer so that’s all some like I have an offer I’m not gonna die two more because I don’t have any why don’t you buy food so then I told the other recruiter because I’m very transparent all the time so I told her we could look I had an offer so maybe you can cancel the interviews because I think that I’d take it because at least have an offer because I was so scared to not get out the other offers and and drop it and then this other recruiter we were friends today and she told me you should not accept it I’m 100 percent sure you’re gonna get something much better because there were so many so many companies what didn’t me you wouldn’t you interview me I was kind of scared and surprising but habitats inside yeah I was like I mean it makes sense what she’s saying but is still what if she’s wrong why should I believe these girls yeah it’s about like my salary my career yeah and then I like okay let’s talk to more about this thing again and then I went home and just laid in my bed it was like 6 p.m. is zero and I was just thinking a lot about everything that had happened in the last week all the interviews all the the phone calls and everything and then as I just thought look I have enough money for at least six months so I should be fine like I got an offer in in that week I don’t need to jump into the first opportunity like I planned so much to be here I don’t want to do anything you rush or out of fear or anything and then I declined this first offer and it was amazing because then after a month I had more than 10 offers actually right so I was like oh my gosh that’s that’s that’s a dream like I don’t think I would have that many offers if I was back in the city where I was living Brazil yeah did you do you find the Irish market for for job hunt different from the Brazilian yeah very different very different because here there the the recruiters go after you and name Brazil is kind of the opposite you have to go after companies there in Brazil yeah yeah we did but not that many not that many at all I mean again it’s it’s kind of scary how good the market is here in lovely it’s kind of scary because well you don’t have like your sound like every day we are contacted by every critic here offering someone something so it’s really impressive it’s really impressive I’d say if a working might see bubbling is a perfect place you start your leave abroad or your life in Europe yeah so okay you you’ve got an offer of several offers did you did you find yourself thinking okay this is this is a good offer mm-hmm but also why are they talking about chairs mm-hmm seven days I think that you started to learn as well yeah yeah definitely yeah yeah yes so I grabbed something I got many offers from from it small companies like startups and also got make offers from big things yeah and then on the big companies it’s very clear that they offer all these benefits for you just we just should kind of seduce you and get you to work to them and then yeah I started comparing these kind of things and some companies you know for much more money but you’re gonna get not that many days off and so on so as I was feeling like much more comfortable I really like doing like a pros and cons of each company and when I had the offers that I had to give my final answer like in that week then I’ll literally draw like a board on a paper and compare both of the companies and I’ll do read more about both companies you say okay between those become when they know things kind of comparisons all the time so and then yeah I learned that many big companies you would offer you stocks that’s a very common thing many because many companies many tech companies you are American companies and that’s super naturally in the US so and they also kind of try to raise some holes it’ll give you more patil because that’s a big thing as well yeah let the benefits are could be very competitive outside and in terms of well you you got up on offered after seeing all of these things and benefits and money and and names you at some point you just decided for a company and then you have to look for a place okay staying here mmm-hmm so how was the the housing hunt now let’s say here in Dublin okay so the husband’s here for me I said I think I was very lucky because actually I came here with two weeks both in a hostel that’s the imagine that that also who’d acept you and then after five days I found a place actually but again it’s because I was already in touch with some people with those Facebook groups and then in five days I found this place and I would share an apartment with a Brazilian couple like okay that’s good like it’s a Brazilian couple like we are in the same culture so we Canada send each other I was kind of reluctant because I didn’t want to really relieve Brazilians because I wanted to live with someone who I could practice English but at the same time at the same time I thought okay you know what at the beginning at least let me stick like at least my house should be an easy place for me I can just speaking Portuguese that’s the case like I don’t get so tired and so on I can express myself and so on so then they move to things that you would say then it’s networking so if you go back in time what would you do different like if there is someone banging Brazilian now you know well actually I would like to go abroad these guys actually Brazilian I could experience in Ireland he was engaged by a lot of the cleaner so it seems to be easy then say yeah what would you recommend do you mean by picking the right place or just the person decided to decide of the place already and how do they prepare to go there yes yes so what would you do different I need something different for Victoria job hunt for nothing or networking mm-hmm yeah I think networking could be more helpful to be honest because yeah I again I was in touch with people like recruiters and people to find plays and stuff but I was not really touch like in a way like asking really okay please help me like I don’t know this isn’t that and so on so maybe I could have talked more to some people or maybe talked more to more people than I mean and to get here and then I don’t know just have more friends and then just find places in easier or something maybe finding a job I believe that it was kind of lucky I was really lucky to be honest at least it was much faster than I thought to get the the new apartment and a pleasure even than the job as well but I believe that if I had spent more time with networking with people yeah believe that that would be more Warren seeds didn’t I mean I think I was lucky yep but it could be more guaranteed for people coming in and stuff and after you’ve been here three years yeah if you are just thinking that you might arrived in Ireland with all the experience that you have at the moment what would you do different here in Ireland Justin you have arrived that a little question doing differently I don’t think I have done anything differently in my story to be honest because I think I would like the way that heat went through I really liked it I beginning I think was lucky but II still I ever liked it I like this adventure and everything but if you are just arriving now in Dublin I think it’s harder now than it was three years ago like the accommodation situation it’s also in EE it’s so expensive now so I would say really plan ahead and before you come here just look for places where you think you want to leave because for example when I leave in the city centre maybe not gonna use the public transport as much and I’m going to spend much time commute but at the same time is so expensive or if you just live in a more relaxed area outside of the bling many many Irish people has to do that actually most Irish people don’t want to leave the city centre is more like foreigners that live here and what about culture because well we got a really active yeah and well the weather is different music is different here even though they fast you a lot yeah you recommend to adjust country yeah I think Irish people are very welcoming to be honest they really like foreigners they’re so used to it at least people are here in Dublin they’re so used to it so they’re very welcoming to everyone I’d say and they’re super friendly super funny people they’re kind of warm it kind of reminds me of like Latin people and they don’t they’re not what I expected from I don’t want to say this but like European person normally we think they’re colder they don’t they don’t really like they’re not very friendly let’s say they’re bitter they’ll be too straightforward for example so but I think I think Irish people are really friendly so I think so define and it’s lovely when you can go to just any pub even on your own and we just arrived and you can listen to Irish music and you can see that there’s they’re very happy they dancing in some pubs that’s awesome and deliver well with with foreigners yeah it’s quite an expected culture actually for us we don’t know that much about there yeah I think once that you’re here like I didn’t see that coming yeah yeah they’re really good very good yeah yeah there are quickly the word they’re good people and any note last advice that you have the people I would just say before you go anywhere not just lovely but anywhere is read a lot about the place it’s like really like local news from the place because I think that’s the best way to get to know the real how it is actually in that place some people just read about like oh how is it to move to there don’t like people who did like an exchange or something leaving the city is not the same as just going there for a trip or get a general like that beautiful place and stuff so really like the look on you so you’re gonna get a hang of maybe the weather or I don’t know politics or I don’t know criminal rate or something anything that may concern you so let’s say reading local news it’s super important and try to find groups on Facebook about doubling or any other city that you’re planning to go and try to find groups that could help you and people who went through that experience that you’re trying to do as well that could help a lot yeah well thank you thank you John for the advice thank you and if anyone wants to get in touch with you yeah absolutely I’m not very active on Facebook even if they a mission faced with many times but it’s if people can find me and is you on securely s iqe are Oh double Li and as always Jaya whale I’m work t’v on Instagram is the same name and they username is just JC k Rowley yeah I think that’s it and yep I don’t mind people can definitely ping me have help like three or four people really coming to doubling to find place that you leave and so I really like doing that yeah yeah I know I know the feeling yeah and my case you can contact me to Leonardo Todd Martin at p.m. dot me and subscribe today the podcasts we will have people like you out there has been successful and all the places so please join us and later not let us know if you have any question we can help you cool thank you very much thanks

“Failure isn’t fatal, but failure to change might be.” —John Wooden

 

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